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Teaching family the "Adsense Way"
After 7 years, now they want in 5:25 pm on Sep 9, 2011 (gmt 0)
In a few months it will be 8 years since I joined the G Adsense program. Many of you know that I was in the "UPS Club" for a while, collecting over 10K a month. Well, I got tired of it, and invested the money I made in a large farm. Everything I own is paid for, thank you Google.
So now, my family is coming to me, how did you do it? Could you teach us? I'm over the Adsense stuff myself, I have everything I need, but they are still struggling with life and bills, so I am ready to pass it on, I guess. My question, is it too late for these beginners to enter the Adsense world? I feel like the big heyday of it has long been over and if you didn't cash in and invest, you're screwed, but maybe not. Could I get some opinions?
I do have a great idea, I think, for the main topic their site could be about, it's something that they know and I think the world would appreciate their inside info. I made money by turning my knowledge into dollar bills, is it too late in the game to teach others to do the same?
5:44 pm on Sep 9, 2011 (gmt 0)
Not too late, but I would also point them in the direction of other income streams, and not just AdSense. Like affiliate marketing, for example. The AdSense of today, while even more lucrative for me, is not the AdSense of eight years ago, and I wouldn't want to be betting my farm on it in 2011.
6:23 pm on Sep 9, 2011 (gmt 0)
I do have a great idea, I think, for the main topic their site could be about, it's something that they know and I think the world would appreciate their inside info.
IMHO insofar as any new site is concerned this is the main criteria and if there seems to be plenty of ad inventory why not try it?
My UPS days are long gone too therefore it may well be worth keeping a diary as to how many hours are spent working on the site and its monthly income. When good money comes in on a regular basis it's easy to justify the hours invested however when the income is 10% of what it was a few years ago then burger flipping could look a better alternative...and I'm not joking when I write that.
6:36 pm on Sep 9, 2011 (gmt 0)
Wow. Congratulations - nothing beats hearing a success story like that.
I'd suggest advertising, but not adsense. Advertising revenue/spending continues to increase, but the real juicy and easy stuff isn't adsense anymore. Frankly I think adsense kinda looks trashy on a website now. Go get some high dollar direct advertising. Way more money, more control, and your site will look better.
6:57 pm on Sep 9, 2011 (gmt 0)
Good advertising comes for high traffic websites only. I have noticed some premium banner networks paying more on a few websites, compared to Adsense.
For starting up, i think adsense is still better than others.
9:04 pm on Sep 9, 2011 (gmt 0)
My family is still confused by what I do. Heck, I'm confused by what I do... It sounds like pain and misery attempting to teach someone something they can't figure out on their own. That may sound cheeky, but, honestly, my own immediate family doesn't have the work ethic to do what I do, let alone, my "expanded" family. If you like self misery, go for it.
9:24 pm on Sep 9, 2011 (gmt 0)
Congrats, great success story.
It's never too late. I, too, have had family members (and friends) inquire about AdSense and other online ventures and some of them have signed up--but in all cases they've just not had what it takes. It takes a commitment to build the content and traffic over time, and a lot of people I run into just don't have the long-term commitment.
koan
#:4360734
11:10 pm on Sep 9, 2011 (gmt 0)
I wouldn't want to be betting my farm on it in 2011.
I see what you did there.
3:15 pm on Sep 10, 2011 (gmt 0)
(Actually, I'm saving for an island, myself, but same general idea)
12:02 am on Sep 12, 2011 (gmt 0)
It takes a commitment to build the content and traffic over time, and a lot of people I run into just don't have the long-term commitment.
I wholeheartedly agree with this statement. Most people I talk to see an opportunity to make a quick buck and consider the entire internet some sort of get rich quick scheme.
Another problem I see is where people have the desire to do this and are willing to do the work, but don't have the talent necessary to succeed.
4:45 am on Sep 12, 2011 (gmt 0)
Most people are just happy to go to work and collect a paycheck. They are worker bees. It takes a certain kind of person build a business and become successful with it.
Good advertising comes for high traffic websites only.
Not true. I don't have a high traffic site and do quite well.
5:04 am on Sep 12, 2011 (gmt 0)
Thanks so much for the comments. Very helpful.
Most people I talk to see an opportunity to make a quick buck and consider the entire internet some sort of get rich quick scheme.
Another problem I see is where people have the desire to do this and are willing to do the work, but don't have the talent necessary to succeed.
Atomic, you summed it up and hit the nail on the head. These were my 2 main concerns too.
I did, however, offer to teach lessons and take them step by step, the way I started but using newer technology. I'll see what happens and keep you posted if it gets interesting. I have volunteered for 3 hours per week hands-on teaching and whoever in the family wants to attend can. That could change based on our first lesson in 2 days, I am expecting at least five "students" to attend but there might be more show up. Or, if I am really lucky I can avoid the self misery that ascensions mentioned and no one will even show up. "Students" will all be family members, this is going to be nuts.
9:07 am on Sep 12, 2011 (gmt 0)
It takes a commitment to build the content and traffic over time, and a lot of people I run into just don't have the long-term commitment.
True, it would be interesting to know, certainly I am one of them, just how many already had very successful and well-established websites before AdSense, in fact probably before Google, were unable to monetise them, definitely me, and then when AdSense appeared were immediately able to go into hundreds then thousands of Dollars a month with a simple bolt-on, again definitely me.
I have built many a trade widget niche site over the years yet my two originals still out-earn all the others combined however in defence they were built with specific regions and markets in mind and were never going to be as big traffic sites.
2:25 am on Sep 13, 2011 (gmt 0)
HuskyPup, my first 2 sites were before Google too and exactly as you explained. I did start one new one in 2006 and it has done well traffic wise but not monetarily. But, in defense in the case, it was a really low paying industry. Along the lines of recycling, nothing lower paying than that!
5:27 am on Sep 13, 2011 (gmt 0)
The day they see just two dollars after a long day of work (or some cents the first days), they will think you're simply lying about the way you make the money.
Then you will need to explain how long it's the way to honest success but probably that's too late.
Maybe you should try to teach them about te way to make some traffic and then, and only then, show the Adsense way to the best ones, those who shows a real ability to run a website.
6:38 am on Sep 13, 2011 (gmt 0)
Most people I talk to see an opportunity to make a quick buck and consider the entire internet some sort of get rich quick scheme.
I used to post advice on a forum run by a hosting company and targetted at beginners and hobby webmasters. A regular post was "I put your affiliate link on my site last week, where's my money?"
6:43 am on Sep 13, 2011 (gmt 0)
@spaceylacie I still remember your website from older post. I've alway envied your website and love the content. You need to check on it you have malware on your .org website.
Change your ftp password and you would probably need to inspect for malicious codes, dont forget to check all pages even in sub directory.
I would also check your pc and dont save your ftp password.
7:49 am on Sep 13, 2011 (gmt 0)
I am expecting at least five "students" to attend but there might be more show up.
/
"Students" will all be family members, this is going to be nuts.
how are you going to convince all of them to not click on their ads, to not click on each others ads, and to not tell friends what their sites are?
5:35 pm on Sep 13, 2011 (gmt 0)
Kudos to you for trying to help others in your family. Its very generous to give so much time to this experiment.
I tried it two years ago. Had a close family member, a school teacher, who was stretching a thin budget. I thought, what with summers off and holiday breaks, there would be lots of time to learn and work at getting a successful business going.
Result: absolute dis-interest. Never got even to the first step.
I have kept quiet since then. I wish you well and hope you have more success than I did.
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Teaching family the "Adsense Way"
After 7 years, now they want in 5:25 pm on Sep 9, 2011 (gmt 0)
In a few months it will be 8 years since I joined the G Adsense program. Many of you know that I was in the "UPS Club" for a while, collecting over 10K a month. Well, I got tired of it, and invested the money I made in a large farm. Everything I own is paid for, thank you Google.
So now, my family is coming to me, how did you do it? Could you teach us? I'm over the Adsense stuff myself, I have everything I need, but they are still struggling with life and bills, so I am ready to pass it on, I guess. My question, is it too late for these beginners to enter the Adsense world? I feel like the big heyday of it has long been over and if you didn't cash in and invest, you're screwed, but maybe not. Could I get some opinions?
I do have a great idea, I think, for the main topic their site could be about, it's something that they know and I think the world would appreciate their inside info. I made money by turning my knowledge into dollar bills, is it too late in the game to teach others to do the same?
5:44 pm on Sep 9, 2011 (gmt 0)
Not too late, but I would also point them in the direction of other income streams, and not just AdSense. Like affiliate marketing, for example. The AdSense of today, while even more lucrative for me, is not the AdSense of eight years ago, and I wouldn't want to be betting my farm on it in 2011.
6:23 pm on Sep 9, 2011 (gmt 0)
I do have a great idea, I think, for the main topic their site could be about, it's something that they know and I think the world would appreciate their inside info.
IMHO insofar as any new site is concerned this is the main criteria and if there seems to be plenty of ad inventory why not try it?
My UPS days are long gone too therefore it may well be worth keeping a diary as to how many hours are spent working on the site and its monthly income. When good money comes in on a regular basis it's easy to justify the hours invested however when the income is 10% of what it was a few years ago then burger flipping could look a better alternative...and I'm not joking when I write that.
6:36 pm on Sep 9, 2011 (gmt 0)
Wow. Congratulations - nothing beats hearing a success story like that.
I'd suggest advertising, but not adsense. Advertising revenue/spending continues to increase, but the real juicy and easy stuff isn't adsense anymore. Frankly I think adsense kinda looks trashy on a website now. Go get some high dollar direct advertising. Way more money, more control, and your site will look better.
6:57 pm on Sep 9, 2011 (gmt 0)
Good advertising comes for high traffic websites only. I have noticed some premium banner networks paying more on a few websites, compared to Adsense.
For starting up, i think adsense is still better than others.
9:04 pm on Sep 9, 2011 (gmt 0)
My family is still confused by what I do. Heck, I'm confused by what I do... It sounds like pain and misery attempting to teach someone something they can't figure out on their own. That may sound cheeky, but, honestly, my own immediate family doesn't have the work ethic to do what I do, let alone, my "expanded" family. If you like self misery, go for it.
9:24 pm on Sep 9, 2011 (gmt 0)
Congrats, great success story.
It's never too late. I, too, have had family members (and friends) inquire about AdSense and other online ventures and some of them have signed up--but in all cases they've just not had what it takes. It takes a commitment to build the content and traffic over time, and a lot of people I run into just don't have the long-term commitment.
koan
#:4360734
11:10 pm on Sep 9, 2011 (gmt 0)
I wouldn't want to be betting my farm on it in 2011.
I see what you did there.
3:15 pm on Sep 10, 2011 (gmt 0)
(Actually, I'm saving for an island, myself, but same general idea)
12:02 am on Sep 12, 2011 (gmt 0)
It takes a commitment to build the content and traffic over time, and a lot of people I run into just don't have the long-term commitment.
I wholeheartedly agree with this statement. Most people I talk to see an opportunity to make a quick buck and consider the entire internet some sort of get rich quick scheme.
Another problem I see is where people have the desire to do this and are willing to do the work, but don't have the talent necessary to succeed.
4:45 am on Sep 12, 2011 (gmt 0)
Most people are just happy to go to work and collect a paycheck. They are worker bees. It takes a certain kind of person build a business and become successful with it.
Good advertising comes for high traffic websites only.
Not true. I don't have a high traffic site and do quite well.
5:04 am on Sep 12, 2011 (gmt 0)
Thanks so much for the comments. Very helpful.
Most people I talk to see an opportunity to make a quick buck and consider the entire internet some sort of get rich quick scheme.
Another problem I see is where people have the desire to do this and are willing to do the work, but don't have the talent necessary to succeed.
Atomic, you summed it up and hit the nail on the head. These were my 2 main concerns too.
I did, however, offer to teach lessons and take them step by step, the way I started but using newer technology. I'll see what happens and keep you posted if it gets interesting. I have volunteered for 3 hours per week hands-on teaching and whoever in the family wants to attend can. That could change based on our first lesson in 2 days, I am expecting at least five "students" to attend but there might be more show up. Or, if I am really lucky I can avoid the self misery that ascensions mentioned and no one will even show up. "Students" will all be family members, this is going to be nuts.
9:07 am on Sep 12, 2011 (gmt 0)
It takes a commitment to build the content and traffic over time, and a lot of people I run into just don't have the long-term commitment.
True, it would be interesting to know, certainly I am one of them, just how many already had very successful and well-established websites before AdSense, in fact probably before Google, were unable to monetise them, definitely me, and then when AdSense appeared were immediately able to go into hundreds then thousands of Dollars a month with a simple bolt-on, again definitely me.
I have built many a trade widget niche site over the years yet my two originals still out-earn all the others combined however in defence they were built with specific regions and markets in mind and were never going to be as big traffic sites.
2:25 am on Sep 13, 2011 (gmt 0)
HuskyPup, my first 2 sites were before Google too and exactly as you explained. I did start one new one in 2006 and it has done well traffic wise but not monetarily. But, in defense in the case, it was a really low paying industry. Along the lines of recycling, nothing lower paying than that!
5:27 am on Sep 13, 2011 (gmt 0)
The day they see just two dollars after a long day of work (or some cents the first days), they will think you're simply lying about the way you make the money.
Then you will need to explain how long it's the way to honest success but probably that's too late.
Maybe you should try to teach them about te way to make some traffic and then, and only then, show the Adsense way to the best ones, those who shows a real ability to run a website.
6:38 am on Sep 13, 2011 (gmt 0)
Most people I talk to see an opportunity to make a quick buck and consider the entire internet some sort of get rich quick scheme.
I used to post advice on a forum run by a hosting company and targetted at beginners and hobby webmasters. A regular post was "I put your affiliate link on my site last week, where's my money?"
6:43 am on Sep 13, 2011 (gmt 0)
@spaceylacie I still remember your website from older post. I've alway envied your website and love the content. You need to check on it you have malware on your .org website.
Change your ftp password and you would probably need to inspect for malicious codes, dont forget to check all pages even in sub directory.
I would also check your pc and dont save your ftp password.
7:49 am on Sep 13, 2011 (gmt 0)
I am expecting at least five "students" to attend but there might be more show up.
/
"Students" will all be family members, this is going to be nuts.
how are you going to convince all of them to not click on their ads, to not click on each others ads, and to not tell friends what their sites are?
5:35 pm on Sep 13, 2011 (gmt 0)
Kudos to you for trying to help others in your family. Its very generous to give so much time to this experiment.
I tried it two years ago. Had a close family member, a school teacher, who was stretching a thin budget. I thought, what with summers off and holiday breaks, there would be lots of time to learn and work at getting a successful business going.
Result: absolute dis-interest. Never got even to the first step.
I have kept quiet since then. I wish you well and hope you have more success than I did.
